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We Have The Technology: Jamie Metzl and Building Better Humans

Welcome to FOMO Sapiens, the podcast that explores the minds and habits of entrepreneurial thinkers who don’t just follow the crowd, but instead take their own path to success in business and in life.

In this episode, host Patrick J. McGinnis is joined by Jamie Metzl, a technology and healthcare futurist, geopolitical expert, and author of “Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity.”

In this captivating conversation, we dive into the content of Jamie’s groundbreaking book, discussing how genetic engineering is about to drastically alter the future of our species. Jamie elucidates the current state of genetic science, the ethical dilemmas arising from it, and what these innovations might mean for the future of humanity and building better humans. The discussion touches on topics like CRISPR, gene editing, designer babies, and the societal implications of these advancements. Jamie explains how these innovations could revolutionize healthcare, longevity, and even our evolutionary trajectory, all while discussing the ethical conundrums and potential risks that accompany such progress.

Whether you’re a science enthusiast, an entrepreneur in the healthcare space, or simply interested in understanding how genetic engineering could shape our future, this episode is a fascinating journey through the genetic frontier. Join us and let Jamie Metzl’s “Hacking Darwin” open your eyes to the potential and the challenges of our genetically-engineered future.

Meet our guest:

Jamie Metzl is a leading technology and healthcare futurist, geopolitical expert, author, investor, entrepreneur, and media commentator. He is founder and Chair of the global social movement OneShared.World and an Atlantic Council Senior Fellow and Singularity University expert, Jamie previously served in the U.S. National Security Council, State Department, Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and as a Human Rights Officer for the United Nations in Cambodia, and was a member of the World Health Organization expert advisory committee on human genome editing.

Jamie has been called “the original COVID-19 whistleblower” for his groundbreaking efforts calling for a full investigation into pandemic origins and was the lead witness in the March 2023 US congressional hearings on pandemic origins, the first such hearings held anywhere in the world. He is the author of a history of the Cambodian genocide, the historical novel The Depths of the Sea, the sci-fi thrillers Genesis Code and Eternal Sonata, and the non-fiction bestseller, Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity, which has been translated into 12 languages. His short story “A Visit to Weizenbaum” was made into the 2021 short film Source Code. His new book, The Great Biohack: Recasting Life in an Age of Revolutionary Technology, will be published by Timbre/Hachette in May 2024.

Jamie appears regularly on national and international media, his work has been featured by 60 Minutes, the New York Times, and most major media outlets across the globe, and his syndicated columns and other writing on science, technology, health, politics, and international affairs appear regularly in publications around the world.

A leading global voice on the big picture implications of the genetics, AI, and biotechnology revolutions and the ethical imperative to deploy revolutionary technologies wisely, Jamie helped establish and serves as Special Strategist for the WisdomTree BioRevolution Exchange Traded Fund (ticker: WDNA) and sits on the advisory boards of Exponential Medicine, Genomic Prediction, Harvard Medical School Preventive Genomics, the Lake Nona Impact Forum, NextMed Health, the Dubai Future Forum, and Walmart’s Future of Retail Policy Lab. Jamie is a founder and board Co-Chair of the national security organization Partnership for a Secure America and a board member of the American University in Mongolia and Parsons Dance. He previously served on the boards of HIAS, Park University, and the International Center for Transitional Justice, and has been an election monitor in Afghanistan and the Philippines and advised the government of North Korea on the establishment of Special Economic Zones.

An avid ultramarathon runner and ironman triathlete, Jamie is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a former White House Fellow and Aspen Institute Crown Fellow who holds a Ph.D. from Oxford, a JD from Harvard Law School, and is a magna cum laude, Phi Beta Kappa graduate of Brown University. Jamie speaks frequently to corporate, nonprofit, and academic audiences around the world and was an opening keynote speaker at the 2023 Dubai Future Forum, the largest gathering of futurists in history.

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